I think I should clarify my points about the ending to Y Tu Mama Tambien
that I made in my last post on the subject. I should have said that I didn't find the movie as optimistic as joker, did, not that I didn't find it somewhat optimistic, though, it was sad, since, while Tenoch and Julio were largely obnoxious and irresponsible, I also found them to be funny and warm-hearted, and I felt the portrayal of their friendship really rang true (I read that the two actors had known each other since they were kids), so it was sad to see it end this way, even if they seemed inseperable at the end. And I should have qualified my statement about responsiblity to be about "civic responsibility," they both did seem somewhat more responsible, but perhaps that is because they're hypersexual machismo was much, much more muted. Personally, if I had to choose between Tenoch and Julio over who would be ultimately more politically responsible in the future, it would be Julio; I still think that Tenoch caved into his father's wishes, and having to live in that milieu. Plus, there was there short conversation about Daniel, which while peppered with homophobic remarks, seemed to imply that Julio was more accepting and at peace with homosexuality. And another thing, Julio's reaction to the news of Luisa's death; sure Tenoch knew for a much longer time, but the way he described it to Julio seemed kind of impersonal, while Julio's reaction, while not overtly demonstrative, was still somewhat shocked.
Whether optimistic or not, the ending was realistic, painful, tinged with melancholy and regret. I found it to be a complex scene, especially with the final words of the narrator echoing over the images of Julio and Tenoch's final parting.